Councils sign up to controversial needs-assessment technique

Last post 05-28-2008 13:26 by Tony Taylor. 4 replies.
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  • 05-12-2008 11:09

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    Councils sign up to controversial needs-assessment technique

    A popular but controversial self-help technique is being used by youth professionals to help assess the needs of young people in 30 local council areas.

  • 05-12-2008 11:09 In reply to

    RE: Councils sign up to controversial needs-assessment technique

    I am curious about this tool and would like to have a look at it. Can you let me know how i can get hold of a pack?

  • 05-13-2008 18:16 In reply to

    RE: Councils sign up to controversial needs-assessment technique

    I wonder what councils are using it? if there was a list available it would be useful. Thanks

  • 05-15-2008 12:09 In reply to

    RE: Councils sign up to controversial needs-assessment technique

    You should be able to get this information from Positive Steps Oldham. Their contact number is 0161 621 9400 or email info@positivestepsoldham.co.uk. If you ask for Dave Stewart he should be able to answer your questions.

    Cathy Wallace
    Online Editor
    Children & Young People Now
    cathy.wallace@haymarket.com
  • 05-28-2008 13:26 In reply to

    RE: Councils sign up to controversial needs-assessment technique

    Just to put the record straight, find below the response I made at short notice to an approach from Shafik.

    Where to start? I got your message a couple of hours ago. One problem is that the CAF cards site is basically a marketing exercise, touting for trade. It is full of generalisation and cliches, dressed up to suit today's climate. In this sense I could only give you a measured response if I went on one of the training days. Of course, this is not much use to you.

    But I would ask the following of the 30 authorities involved. The CAF cards claim to be based on NLP 'principles', one of which is that people have built-in programmes that drive them. Evidently if you the NLP expert understand this, you can help young people understand themselves. Have managers and workers accepted this unsubstantiated assertion and, indeed, are they now also disciples of accelerated learning principles? My advice is that a lot of money is being wasted here on simplistic, flavour of the month banalities. I don't think authorities need to shell out money on materials, training and consultancy, which suggest that the question, 'what do you like about your family?' or the idea of road signs and route maps is mind-blowingly innovative and worthy of copyrighting! Treat with great caution people who suggest they can help young people reach 'desired states'. Honest Youth Work is an unpredictable, self-critical process with no guarantees about where it might lead.

    For anybody, who is interested further I'm putting a written version on our site of a workshop I did at the Youth and Policy, 'Taking Youth Work Seriously' conference on 'The Unhappy Marriage Of Youth Work and Psychology', which looks critically at NLP's claims - probably in about 3 weeks.

    Tony Taylor at http://www.critically-chatting.0catch.com [ a former youth worker, who's never played cards, but still managed many a mutual, open, questioning conversation with young people, within which we both hopefully learnt from one another. Of course I also blew it sometimes!]

    Tony Taylor, Coordinator, Critically Chatting Collective

    http://www.critically-chatting.0catch.com
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