Projects slam Boris rap attack speech

Last post 11-10-2008 11:09 by Mike Amos-Simpson. 9 replies.
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  • 10-14-2008 15:07

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    Projects slam Boris rap attack speech

    London Mayor Boris Johnson has come under fire after he attacked youth projects for spending large sums on DJing and MCing equipment at last week's Conservative Party conference in Birmingham.

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  • 10-14-2008 15:07 In reply to

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    boris doesn't understand how to engage hard to reach young people, sorry boz.

  • 10-15-2008 10:36 In reply to

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    um....soz but how on earth os improving their literacy and numeracy skills gonna top them fro going out onto the streets causing trouble? the Dj and Mc idea in my opinion is really good

  • 10-16-2008 0:34 In reply to

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    lee watton:

    um....soz but how on earth os improving their literacy and numeracy skills gonna top them fro going out onto the streets causing trouble? the Dj and Mc idea in my opinion is really good

     

    Many would question exactly the same about DJ & MC projects!

    From the article "The workshops Boris Johnson refers to aren't intended to make young people become rappers and DJs: they are a means of engaging disengaged young people in positive activities. Those of us working on the front line with disadvantaged young people know that secondary schools and statutory provision are often failing young people, which is why alternative approaches are becoming increasingly vital."

    If its only a 'tool of engagement' it seems valid to question whether the cost of that method of engagement is effective. I don't think that statement illustrates very well how this approach either covers that gap from the 'failing statutory provision' or provides a credible alternative. I've no doubt at all that there are very good examples of how music projects are doing exactly that, but it would be useful to see examples of it so that when those methods are questioned (as people are entitled to do) theres a better response than simply slagging off the education system.

    And if you don't see the values of literacy & numeracy ask yourself why parents all over the world in the poorest of communities will give everything they have for the opportunity for their children to get those basic skills.

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  • 10-22-2008 19:34 In reply to

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    Sadly it is lack of understanding of high profile figures like Boris who influence many people in the UK's perceptions of the purpose of Youth Work. Also people are so quick to believe what they read in the papers and see in the news, and dismiss the possibility of any other dimension to what is printed/reported. No wonder so many youth workers roles and resonsibilities are down-played by many of those outside of the 'social care' circle.

  • 10-23-2008 21:26 In reply to

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    Hi Kirsty - I do agree with that. I'm sure just about everyone involved with youth work has had a hard time getting people outside of the sector to understand what they actually do - the two responses I usually get are "ah thats amazing" (as if all the 'children' I work with are starving) or "? er ok" (they don't understand the point of it!).

    The trouble is that while people involved in the sector may acept the benefit of certain activities, to those outside it its understandably difficult to make the links. We need more emphasis on why certain approaches work and how they work. I don't think this necessarily comes from having a fixed curriculum, the flexibility for creative approaches should always be important and we should encourage people to try things that others do challenge and question - but at the same time we need for the sector to highly publicise the benefits of what it is doing and how it achieves what it does.

    I'm sure I'm not alone in watching the many adverts on TV about teachers and what an inspiring career it is, how it makes a difference to young peoples lives etc. and wondering how come theres never anythng like this abut youth work? Most likely its because theres not the budgets but when I see the amount spent on promoting certain services for young people I do wonder whether more consideration should be given to promoting what youth work actually is and making the profession attractive to people - afterall the strength of the work ultimately depends on those doing it. Maybe we need a campaign for a campaign?!

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  • 11-07-2008 11:53 In reply to

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    Write lyrics = English 4/4 Musical Timing = Maths. Simple \(eroneous) ascertions require simple responses. Nathan - Wakefield.

  • 11-07-2008 22:19 In reply to

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    did you mean 'erroneous' & 'assertions'? ;-)
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  • 11-10-2008 9:14 In reply to

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    Heh Heh!

    That's what happens when you rely on rap recordings for your education....

  • 11-10-2008 11:09 In reply to

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    lol at least it had a nice rhythm to it ;-)

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